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Squirrels Missing from Mammal 2018 Taxonomy?
Last Post 01/12/2019 9:32 AM by Jeff Jones. 7 Replies.
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John Baker
Peregrine Falcon
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01/04/2019 7:41 AM
    If these two squirrels: Montane Long-nosed Squirrel (Hyosciurus heinrichi) and Lowland Long-nosed Squirrel (Hyposciurus ileile) are there, I can't find them. Wikipedia says they exist (with a 1935 reference) and I saw them (or saw something). They are claimed to be endemic to Sulawesi (Celebes). Have they changed their names? Not species? Got dropped on the floor? Thanks for any insight you can give. John Baker

    Jeff Jones
    Great Gray Owl
    Great Gray Owl
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    01/04/2019 8:53 AM

    Hi John,

    Thanks for posting. 

    How are you trying to look for these two species? Using the Rosetta stone, or the Taxonomy Viewer, I find them easily.

    Note: you have a typo in the genus above for Lowland Long-nosed Squirrel. 

    Let me know,

    Jeff

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    Jeff Jones
    Great Gray Owl
    Great Gray Owl
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    01/04/2019 8:56 AM

    John,

    I just noticed that neither squirrel is associated with a location. That is probably the issue you are having.

    You will need to use the Checklist Editor (F9) to add a location for this thing.

    Then click the Update button.

    Jeff

    Birder's Diary Technical Support
    John Baker
    Peregrine Falcon
    Peregrine Falcon
    Posts:52


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    01/05/2019 10:39 AM
    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks! I knew they were there somewhere, but every trick I tried didn't work. I have never used the Rosetta Stone before, but now I have. So, every year I learn more and more things Birders' Diary can do.

     John

    John Baker
    Peregrine Falcon
    Peregrine Falcon
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    01/05/2019 11:04 AM
    Hi Jeff,

    Well, I spoke too soon. When I use Rosetta Stone or Taxonomy Viewer, these two squirrels are indeed there. But when I print the check list, they are NOT there. (See attachment--they should be in the last column of page ten between Sculptor Squirrel and Four-striped Ground Squirrel, I think). Also, the number of species on the check list is a few off from the number in the taxonomy. Did my download go awry and miss a few? Or is it something else? To me, this seems truly weird. I hope there's a simple explanation.

     John

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    Jeff Jones
    Great Gray Owl
    Great Gray Owl
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    01/05/2019 1:23 PM

    Hi John,

    Did you do what I showed above with the Checklist Editor? You have to do that. That should fix your squirrel issue.

    If you have others missing from your location, then you will need to do the same thing.

    Let me know please,

    Jeff

    Birder's Diary Technical Support
    John Baker
    Peregrine Falcon
    Peregrine Falcon
    Posts:52


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    01/11/2019 4:34 PM
    Hi Jeff,

    Sorry about the slow response--I had to work out of town this week. But, it isn't just MY squirrel problem. I believe there are 163 species in the 2018 Mammal Taxonomy with NO location. That is, if I make a Mammal World checklist with "World" for the location and no subspecies, I get 5,235 species. If I leave location blank, I get 5,416 species, which I believe is the correct number in the taxonomy. I can indeed fix my two squirrels, and I have, but I can't fix the other 161 because I don't know which they are or where they belong. Maybe you could check this out.

    John Baker
    Jeff Jones
    Great Gray Owl
    Great Gray Owl
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    01/12/2019 9:32 AM

    Hi John,

    Thanks for clarifying. I understand now. Yes, in total there are 205 things out of the World Mammal taxonomy without a location tied to them. 

    This information is difficult to come by in some instances and therefore the data is not complete. 

    In addition, each thing in this taxonomy cannot be considered near 100% accurate for a list of locations. Again, very hard to come by this information on 11,767 Things. 

    Many of these things that are missing location info are considered extinct or unsure. But not all.

    For Birds of the World, this information is much better attainable. But Mammals of the World??? Not so much.

    The whole philosophy of Birder's Diary has always been, to give you the tools to update/maintain any of the info within BD to fit your needs; taxonomic, location, names, sort order, etc. etc. This is all modifiable by the user. 

    Sorry, hope this helps,

    Jeff

    Birder's Diary Technical Support
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