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Common Name will not accept capital letters
Last Post 05/16/2019 11:04 AM by Alex Borodayko. 16 Replies.
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Alex Borodayko
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05/12/2019 12:52 PM

    Hello Jeff,

    This is not a big deal but I'm curious as to why this occurred. It has never happened before. It involves my personal Plant List.

    In Jun 2015, I added a new thing: Silvery Lupine (Lupinus argenteus) to my Plant taxonomy list

    In Apr 2019, I added Silver Lupine (Lupinus albifrons) to my Plant taxonomy list. I noticed that after I made the entry the common name was in all lower case letters (silver lupine). I tried editing the common name to make the first letters capital. It accepts the change but reverts to all lower case when I do a search for the thing in the taxonomy list, checklist, sightings, etc.

    The plant has several common names so I opted for and changed the common name to Silver Bush Lupine and that changed correctly with the first letter being in capitals.

    Is this because the two names were so similar or is there something else going on?

    Regards, Al Borodayko

    Cypress, CA

     

    Jeff Jones
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    05/13/2019 11:20 AM

    Hi Al,

    Not enough info for me to comment on here. But, if you have a common name that is in all lower case and want to change to upper case, use the Taxonomy Viewer (F8) as shown below.

     

     

     

    Now, close the Taxonomy viewer and refresh the SmartSearch table. View | Options, MORE Tab...

     

     

    Eventually the SmartSearch table will refresh on its own, this just makes it happen right now.

    Now all should work as expected.

    Jeff

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    Jeff Jones
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    05/13/2019 11:26 AM

    Well - I'll be darned.  I should test these things before I go and give you an answer.

    It appears that it Always converts names to proper case, with first letter capitalized in common names.

    So, I cannot comment on your first issue because you did not give me exact steps to reproduce this issue. It seems that no matter what I do, I cannot reproduce this issue. 

    So, if you can, please give me exact step-by-step instructions to reproduce this issue, and I can then respond to the problem and fix it in code.

    Thanks Al...

    Jeff

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    Alex Borodayko
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    05/13/2019 4:11 PM
    Jeff,

    This was the only time that it happened. Every other time and thing it worked as you stated with first letter capitalized in common names. I tried to change the preferred common name several times using the method you illustrated before my post and again after. Previously, I did not Refresh Smart Search Table. I did on my last attempt but it made no difference. Still lower case.

    So here is how I entered my things:

    I don't know what method I used to add thing in 2015 for the Silvery Lupine, possibly added using "Add ThingTo Taxconomy List". Recently you berated me for using that method. Since then, I used the "Sightings Entry - Keyboard" to add a thing. That is what I used to add the Silver Lupine.

    See if you can recreate the problem with my two plant species:

    First Load:

    Silvery Lupine - Plantae - Anthophyta - Magnoliopsida - Fabales - Fabaceae - Lupinus - argenteus

    Location: Idaho

    Then load:

    Silver Lupine - Plantae - Anthophyta - Magnoliopsida - Fabales - Fabaceae - Lupinus - albifrons

    Location: California

    Then, review the name in the taxonomy list to see how it reads. If both Silvery and Silver Lupines are in Caps then it must be something in my database.

    If you get lower case for silver lupine then you have recreated my problem.

    Regards, Al
    Jeff Jones
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    05/13/2019 4:23 PM

    Hi Al,

    Thanks for the details. Very sorry if I berated you earlier. Or perhaps you are just joking. 

    I am unable to reproduce the issue at all. Never a lower-case name. Now, in the old Thing Editor, you were allowed to do that. Is it possible that this thing was created with the old v4.0 and earlier Thing Editor?

    Do you still have the problem? Are you able to correct the lower case name to Proper Case?

    Jeff

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    Alex Borodayko
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    05/13/2019 7:26 PM
    Yup, Just Joking.
    Silver Lupine was added using V5.0.54. The problem still exists for that one and only name. No amount of editing corrects the proper case for the Silver Lupine.
    Not a problem if I avoid calling it a Silver Lupine. That's OK, because Silver Bush Lupine works fine even though it was my second choice for the preferred common name.
    Don't waste any more of your time, Al
    Jeff Jones
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    05/14/2019 8:39 AM

     Ok Al. But if you ever want to upload your DB and let me have a look at it. I would love to see this.

    Jeff

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    Alex Borodayko
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    05/14/2019 2:17 PM
    Jeff,

    I knew you would be intrigued by this so I will upload my database.

    Al
    Alex Borodayko
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    05/14/2019 2:41 PM
    Jeff,

    I uploaded my database. The file I sent you has Lupinus albifrons with the common name Silver Bush Lupine. See if you can change the common name to Silver Lupine with the first letter of each word in Caps.

    Regards, Al
    Jeff Jones
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    05/15/2019 11:39 AM

    Hi Al,

    I have your database. Thanks. 

    So, now I tried changing the common name to "Silver Lupine" using the Taxonomy Viewer popup menu.

    Reloaded the Taxonomy in the Viewer...

    Did you try the above? What did you do exactly? I guess I don't see the problem here with your database.

    Jeff

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    Alex Borodayko
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    05/15/2019 12:56 PM

    Jeff,

    I don't get the same results as you.

    I added sceenshots to show how my entries work. Note I type in the name with a Capital letter but the result reads with lower case.

    1 - Current Taxonomy List

    2- Edit Preferred Common Name (typed with Capital letters)

    3 - Result lower case in the alias and in Taxonomies Referencing this Thing

    Don't what to say, Al

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    05/15/2019 1:02 PM

    Jeff

    So then I tried to add it as an Alias, with the same results: all lower case

    4 - Add Silver Lupine as an Alias

    5 - Result after Adding Alias (result with lower case)

    I couldn't put all of the attachments on one post so this is part 2, Al

     

     

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    05/16/2019 10:11 AM

    Al,

    That is so hard to believe.  Thanks for the pics - as I wouldn't believe you if you hadn't provided them!!! 

    What could possibly be going on that causes that on your computer? GACK!

    How could it possibly work one way on your computer and work a different way with the same database on my computer? That baffles me.

    If you want, I would really like to get onto your computer sometime and see this in action myself and try to track down exactly where it goes wrong.

    Let me know if that works for you,

    Jeff

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    Alex Borodayko
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    05/16/2019 10:40 AM
    Jeff,

    Now is OK, Al
    Jeff Jones
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    05/16/2019 10:41 AM

    In BD v5.0.54... click on Help | Internet: Invite Support onto Your System and follow the prompts.

    Thanks,

    Jeff

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    Jeff Jones
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    05/16/2019 10:59 AM

    Well, silly me. I was testing Al's database against my v5.1.x code in progress. Apparently I have fixed this case-issue in v5.1.x and I don't remember that.

    thanks Al!

    fyi

    Jeff

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    Alex Borodayko
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    05/16/2019 11:04 AM
    Thanks Jeff,

    I know I can rely on you to solve my problems.

    Great Support, Al

    PS: Berating is more entertaining than advising
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