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I had to add Dark-eyed Junco to my neighborhood checklist. (I don't know how it decides what species to include when you first download it. Or where in the ether it is getting these things from, anyway.) You can go for species seen up to 30 days in the past, but that doesn't help if you downloaded it in the summer, and it is now winter. (I do know you can download for a hotspot and select for a whole year. That option is not available for the "current location".)

So, I had to add Dark-eyed Junco and several others manually. But I did the junco as "Dark-eyedJunco". Now, I want to change that, but there does not seem to be a way to do that without starting a new outing. I don't see a way to edit an existing checklist any other way. I cannot see what is in the checklist without starting an outing.

I suppose I could delete the checklist and download it again, and I would get the junco, I suppose, but then I would lose the summer birds. I could have a summer and a winter checklist to get around this.

A tricky thing is you can use any checklist for any outing, even if you are not at that checklist location. Because the email says the checklist name at the head of the species list. Perhaps it would be better to say instead, "Checklist used: checklist name".

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Hi David,

Posted by: @magmatic

I had to add Dark-eyed Junco to my neighborhood checklist. (I don't know how it decides what species to include when you first download it. Or where in the ether it is getting these things from, anyway.) You can go for species seen up to 30 days in the past, but that doesn't help if you downloaded it in the summer, and it is now winter. (I do know you can download for a hotspot and select for a whole year. That option is not available for the "current location".)

Both the data from "Download Checklist for Current Location" and "Download Checklist for eBird Location" come from eBird's online database.

If you used the former last summer, simply update by downloading again and giving it the same name, you will be prompted to overwrite the existing list of names for the checklist. Now it is refreshed.

Posted by: @magmatic

So, I had to add Dark-eyed Junco and several others manually. But I did the junco as "Dark-eyedJunco". Now, I want to change that, but there does not seem to be a way to do that without starting a new outing. I don't see a way to edit an existing checklist any other way. I cannot see what is in the checklist without starting an outing.

Correct. And don't worry about the misspelling. Often, when I have to add a name, because I have done the same as you, I just enter anything - such as "ferr pyg owl". It's ok. On import, when Birder's Diary Desktop encounters a name it doesn't recognize, it prompts you for the real name using a SmartSearch field. Real easy to correct on import. And yes, no way to correct after you enter a name in BD Moblie.

Posted by: @magmatic

I suppose I could delete the checklist and download it again, and I would get the junco, I suppose, but then I would lose the summer birds. I could have a summer and a winter checklist to get around this.

Yes, you should download again, it will overwrite; no need to delete first. Refresh it again every couple months to get only relevant names on your checklist. Nice to have a concise/short checklist. "Lose the summer birds"? You don't need them on your checklist in the winter if they are not expected.

The expected usage pattern for this checklist is to refresh every month or so to keep the list short and concise.

Posted by: @magmatic

A tricky thing is you can use any checklist for any outing, even if you are not at that checklist location. Because the email says the checklist name at the head of the species list. Perhaps it would be better to say instead, "Checklist used: checklist name".

The email Subject is specifying the Location you specify on the Submit window. And, at the head of each list the Checklist Name is specified so you can know what checklist was used to collect that list. 

Take care,

Jeff

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Hi David,

Posted by: @magmatic

I had to add Dark-eyed Junco to my neighborhood checklist. (I don't know how it decides what species to include when you first download it. Or where in the ether it is getting these things from, anyway.) You can go for species seen up to 30 days in the past, but that doesn't help if you downloaded it in the summer, and it is now winter. (I do know you can download for a hotspot and select for a whole year. That option is not available for the "current location".)

Both the data from "Download Checklist for Current Location" and "Download Checklist for eBird Location" come from eBird's online database.

If you used the former last summer, simply update by downloading again and giving it the same name, you will be prompted to overwrite the existing list of names for the checklist. Now it is refreshed.

Posted by: @magmatic

So, I had to add Dark-eyed Junco and several others manually. But I did the junco as "Dark-eyedJunco". Now, I want to change that, but there does not seem to be a way to do that without starting a new outing. I don't see a way to edit an existing checklist any other way. I cannot see what is in the checklist without starting an outing.

Correct. And don't worry about the misspelling. Often, when I have to add a name, because I have done the same as you, I just enter anything - such as "ferr pyg owl". It's ok. On import, when Birder's Diary Desktop encounters a name it doesn't recognize, it prompts you for the real name using a SmartSearch field. Real easy to correct on import. And yes, no way to correct after you enter a name in BD Moblie.

Posted by: @magmatic

I suppose I could delete the checklist and download it again, and I would get the junco, I suppose, but then I would lose the summer birds. I could have a summer and a winter checklist to get around this.

Yes, you should download again, it will overwrite; no need to delete first. Refresh it again every couple months to get only relevant names on your checklist. Nice to have a concise/short checklist. "Lose the summer birds"? You don't need them on your checklist in the winter if they are not expected.

The expected usage pattern for this checklist is to refresh every month or so to keep the list short and concise.

Posted by: @magmatic

A tricky thing is you can use any checklist for any outing, even if you are not at that checklist location. Because the email says the checklist name at the head of the species list. Perhaps it would be better to say instead, "Checklist used: checklist name".

The email Subject is specifying the Location you specify on the Submit window. And, at the head of each list the Checklist Name is specified so you can know what checklist was used to collect that list. 

Take care,

Jeff

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Jeff, everything you said made sense. I should have realized. Except I would still like the email to says "Checklist used:", to avoid confusion.

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Posted by: @magmatic

Jeff, everything you said made sense. I should have realized. Except I would still like the email to says "Checklist used:", to avoid confusion.

Completed. Available in next release. TBD.

Jeff

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