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[Solved] Peekaboo Grass Wren


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Hi Jeff

Just finished reconciling the new Clements list with my existing BD database and I have found (or possibly created 😋 ) a discrepancy.

I manually changed Sedge Wren to Grass Wren for 3 sightings/trips that I have recorded in the DB. Now however, when I bring up the bird list for the days/trips in question, no entry for Grass Wren appears. If I type Grass Wren into the 'new' search box on the BD main page, I see that there are apparently entries for Grass Wren for 4 occasions (should be 3).

To sum up,

1. the search for Grass Wren shows 4 entries, 2 of which are for the same date and location.

See attached photo.

2. But when I edit the sightings info for the 3 dates there is no record for Grass Wren.

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Hi Brian,

Thanks for posting. Let me try to get some more details from you.

Posted by: @aitona

I manually changed Sedge Wren to Grass Wren for 3 sightings/trips that I have recorded in the DB.

You say that you manually changed... Did you go through the Reconcile process using the wizard? This would be step #5 of the auto-import window. Or exactly what did you do?

Posted by: @aitona

Now however, when I bring up the bird list for the days/trips in question, no entry for Grass Wren appears.

There are so many ways to do this in BD, so I need to know exactly what you are doing. Screenshots of the View Sightings Setup window and the resultant View Edit Sightings window will show me what I need to see. 

Posted by: @aitona

If I type Grass Wren into the 'new' search box on the BD main page, I see that there are apparently entries for Grass Wren for 4 occasions (should be 3).

 

When you do this, you should be asked to select from ambiguous names, such as the screenshot below? Do you? What did you choose?

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If you are not getting this, the Name Search table may be stale. Please update it via 

  1. View | Options
  2. More Tab
  3. Refresh button

Now try again.

INFO: When you reconcile sightings due to a split, sightings for the old Thing in the old taxonomic list remain. Those sightings are cloned and assigned to the newly split Thing in the new taxonomic list. 

If you are trying to see your new Grass Wren sightings with Clements 2021, use View Sightings Setup and make sure you have ONLY selected the new Clements 2021 tax list. This might be the issue (using Clements 2019) consistent with the situation you are describing. 

Let's start here. Don't start mangling or manually editing your sightings yet, if you haven't already.

Let me know

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Hi Jeff

I will answer your questions in separate posts, starting with this one.

 

Did you go through the Reconcile process using the wizard?

Yes I did and during that process I asked that Sedge Wren be changed to Grass wren. When checking after I had completed all reconciliations I saw that I had one more life list bird in BD than the number eBird claimed

 

 

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So I think that Sedge Wren got changed to Grass Wren for one date/trip and that was the reason for the anomaly in the life list count from the 2 applications.

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Sorry for the confusion. I keep writing trip where you probably expect me to be writing 'location'.

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Hi Jeff. I went back into my sightings list for the date in question that showed two location/trip entries just to check. And yes, you absolutely right. There were two entries for that day and location for Grass Wren. I deleted one and now all is right with the world.

Thanks again for your help and guidance.

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@aitona Sounds great.

So, all is good and I will mark this as solved. Let me know if that is wrong. We kind of got our replies out of order here so I am a bit confused.

Thanks for the update.

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@jeff Yes indeed all is good. Pls close this item and thx again for your help.

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There are so many ways to do this in BD, so I need to know exactly what you are doing. Screenshots of the View Sightings Setup window and the resultant View Edit Sightings window will show me what I need to see.

Thanks for asking for this info Jeff. I think you will see my error in this screenshot. I had not noticed that the View Sightings Setup Window was still pointing to the Clements 2019 Taxonomy list and not the 2021 list. My bad. The Grass Wren now shows up as expected.

 

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Earlier today when I was still trying to figure out why I was having this problem, I brought up the View/Edit sightings window for each of the 3 dates that had a Sedge Wren sighting and changed the entry to Grass Wren. They of course promptly disappeared when I went back to check my work Clements 2019 vs 2021 again.

 

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The only outstanding point is that in the Smart Search results I get two entries pointing to the same trip (sorry I mean location) on the same date.

I did refresh the Name/Search table as directed but the anomaly persists.

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Posted by: @aitona

The only outstanding point is that in the Smart Search results I get two entries pointing to the same trip (sorry I mean location) on the same date.

I did refresh the Name/Search table as directed but the anomaly persists.

When you say Smart Search (so much terminology to know and use correctly just so we are talking apples and not oranges; sorry about that), I assume you are talking about the Ctrl+S Search Sightings by Name field in the toolbar at the top of the main window. Screenshot below.

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When you type in Grass Wren, you should be prompted to choose which Grass Wren you mean; e.g. Clements 2019 or 2021. Are you prompted for this?

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I created two Sedge Wren sightings using Clement 19 (one for Utah and one for Colorado); then reconciled against Clements 21 and assigned one of them  (UT) to Grass Wren and the other (CO) to Sedge Wren in Clements 21.

When I type Grass Wren into the Search Sightings by Name field, 

  1. I get prompted for which Grass Wren I mean. I choose Clements 21.
  2. Then I see my one UT Grass Wren sighting.
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If you are following the same procedure and see two sightings with the same properties (observer, date, location, etc), then I assume that somewhere you duplicated it and you can safely delete one of them.

Open the View & Edit Sightings window by clicking on the Pencil Icon button in the Name Search grid that shows.

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Now you can edit or delete one of these sightings.

Let me know. 

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@jeff

Hi Jeff. I went back into my sightings list for the date in question that showed two location/trip entries just to check. And yes, you absolutely right. There were two entries for that day and location for Grass Wren. I deleted one and now all is right with the world.

Thanks again for your help and guidance.

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