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[Solved] Renewing Annual Everything License


Cincybirder
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Is there a special procedure or promo code for RENEWING the annual everything license? Do I just purchase another license? If I do so before the expiration date, will the license extend out for a year from the purchase date or will it also include the remaining days from the existing license? Thanks in advance for your help.

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Hi Neill,

Good question. And everyone has been asking the same.

Currently, (still working out correct details with my eCommerce provider) you need to purchase anew the annual license. And it only extends 365 days from the date of this purchase. So I manually go in and extend to the original end date of your previous annual license so that you do not lose any days. Lots of manual effort for me, trying to work out how this should be automatic with my eCommerce provider in the future.

So, go ahead and purchase at anytime before expiration and I will extend the new license to the proper end date.

Let me know if I can assist further,

Jeff

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UPDATE!

Hold tight for a moment. I am working on a solution.

  1. Creation of a Renewal license that will be 12% off the full price and,
  2. Extend 1 year from the expiration of the original Annual license, 
  3. if purchased no later than 14 days after the original Annual license expiration. After this point, you will need to re-purchase the full Annual license again. 

I will post back here with more updates when in place and tested.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jeff

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UPDATE!

Just released v5.2, Build 55 for download.

Also, on the page for purchasing the Annual Everything License, you will now find an option for a Renewal purchase at 12% OFF the regular price as long as you purchase before the expiration date of your existing Annual license.

Once you activate your Renewal License ID, 365 days will be added to your current expiration date. So you are set to go.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jeff

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Jeff: Thanks! As per usual, a polished, fair, and speedy resolution to an issue. Keep up the great work! 😎 

Neill

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Hi Neill,

I have to ask you. You seem to be the only one that has figured out how to set a profile icon-picture that shows here in the forums. 

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Do you remember, or know how to do this?

I hope you can help the rest of us.

Thanks,

Jeff

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Found It!

I have been looking under the Site User Profile settings. 

Instead it is here in the Forum settings.

Click on your name on any post/topic/reply here in the forums..

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Then click on the Account Tab

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Chose one of the 3 options for Avatars

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This has been bugging me for a couple years now!

Yay! I just love these new forums. They are so functional. Does everyone remember the old forums from 2000 to 2018! Ugggg. Barely functional.

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Sorry, was away from electronic devices. Glad you found the process... I MAY have remembered, but fortunately that's not necessary!  😎 

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Hi,

Last year I purchased the Annual Everything License. 

My options now are to renew Annual Everything @ $114 minus the 12% discount...or revert to ala carte by renewing the Advanced License only for $59, or is it $69 due to the revert ??

Thank you for the clarification!

 

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Posted by: @pileated

Hi,

Last year I purchased the Annual Everything License. 

My options now are to renew Annual Everything @ $114 minus the 12% discount...or revert to ala carte by renewing the Advanced License only for $59, or is it $69 due to the revert ??

Thank you for the clarification!

 

Hi Jim,

Thanks for posting. 

Your understanding is correct. The v5.2 license would only be $59 (the upgrade price, as you own a license for v5.1).

I see that your most recent taxonomic purchases are ABA 2017 and Clements 2016. So, if you have been using the latest ABA 2021 and Clements 2019 (Clements 2021 will be available in a few days), then you will need to purchase those taxonomic lists also if you don't renew. Renewing will allow you to continue to use those latest lists and all new lists for the next year without further purchase. Just wanted to make sure that this part was clear.

Let me know if I can answer or assist further.

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@jeff 

 

Thanks for the info. As I now understand it, when I purchased Advanced v5.1 and the ABA 2017 / Clements 2016 tax lists, I could then chose not to upgrade the version, or buy new tax lists, and I could run that software (v5.1, plus tax lists) in perpetuity.

Having upgraded to the Annual Everything last year, I am essentially 'leasing' the v5.2 software, and the tax lists of ABA 2021 / Clements 2019.  Should I now choose not to renew Annual Everything, I lose the ability to run the above.

I would then have to 'purchase' v5.2, and also the 2021/2019 tax lists, to then run once again in perpetuity...without being required to upgrade versions, or buy new tax lists.

Is that a correct understanding ?

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Hi Jim,

That all sounds correct. One clarifying point if I may.

Posted by: @pileated

Having upgraded to the Annual Everything last year, I am essentially 'leasing' the v5.2 software, and the tax lists of ABA 2021 / Clements 2019.

... and, all tax lists and program releases during that year; keeping you updated for the one annual fee.

Let me know if I can assist further.

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@jeff 

Thanks again.  I'm reminded of the saying 'If something seems to good to be true, then it usually is'.   My concern is that if I used Annual Everything for say 5 years (where I'm using a future V6.x, and future Tax lists) and then BD goes out of business and the Annual Everything licenses expire, I would then have no other option than to revert to a very old v5.x version and very old tax lists.

I've been a customer for 20 years, and my records are too important to me for that risk.  I saw my friends running Avisys meet this risk when that business unfortunately had to close when the developer passed.

Thus, leasing is not for me, and I prefer to purchase permanent licenses.   

Jim

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for taking the time to express your realistic concern.

This gives me an opportunity to explain my strategy with Birder's Diary in the eventuality of an early exit by myself from this World.

In that event, all things Birder's Diary (software, build environment, web site, etc. etc.) goes to the public domain (Open Software Foundation), and an Everything Always license will be made available to everyone, free-of-charge. Yes, I have planned for this, and it was the passing of AviSys (Mr. Blinn) that set this in motion for me many years ago.

No software entities are immune from this critical juncture in time. Whether it be a sole propriety (such as Birder's Diary, AviSys or BirdBase), a Corporation that decides to terminate a product line or goes out of business, or a large university (e.g. Cornell) where funding dries up and priorities change (as certain as death and taxes). It usually leaves the end-user in limbo.

What is different is the long term planning and contingencies in place. I have planned and do have these contingencies in place. But I do plan to be around for many more decades.

Thanks for taking the time and for your continued loyalty and use of Birder's Diary!

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Wow, Jeff! That is amazingly far-sighted and generous. I have been with Birder's Diary since Pete Thayer spoke to the Cincinnati Bird Club over two decades ago, and I've not regretted it. Under your leadership, things have only gotten better. Thanks! 😉 

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