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[Solved] Improving Find Feature.

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Yesterday I asked a question about a feature I had known about and used before.  One factor that led to my dumb question is that the Find Feature help did not lead me anywhere useful.  This is overwhelmingly my experience with Find Feature - if it is in there, it is basic enough that I already know it. If I really can't remember it, I can't find it.   Now I know that documenting and then make everything searchable is a major task. I would like to make a  relatively simple suggestion to improve Find Feature:  go through all the right-click commands, tool tips, etc. you have already used throughout the program and make them all searchable, and reference the user back to where they are in the program.  

My question was about the add counties feature I had used to add counties to some U.S. states in the past. Here is the thought process that led me to ask this dumb question.  I knew I would like to have full lists of counties in states where I have birded.  I went to the Locations window, where there is a box called Add New. Great! I click on it, and yes, I can add one location at a time.  But what about adding all the counties at once? Nothing in this window about doing that.

So go to the help window and click Find Feature.  Now what is this adding counties feature called? I try 'add locations', and it just takes me to the Window I just came from, with no additional documentation.  I try searches for 'add counties', 'provinces' 'regions' etc., all with no results.  

Of course, if I HAD right-clicked in just the right place - the lowest level locations already there for a State, I would have found it.  So what I would love to see is that the language for describing each menu choice actually be accessible in the Find Any Feature or Function data base.  The actual right-click-available command is labeled  "Add All Counties, States, Shires or Regions for this Location" and has the words I was searching for.   

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Jeff
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David,

I know we think alike, but this is scary!

After reading your last post on this "Add sub-locations..." question, I immediately went to the F1 Find Any Feature window; in order to see if I had that in there. Of course, NOT!

Then I read this post here. Queue the theme music from Twilight Zone...

I really like your idea about adding all menu items to this searchable list, and the cool part is that I should be able to automate that.

All menu items, and all popup menu items. I should be able to do that.

So, let me work on that, and if I can do it, it will be in Build 28 also.

Stay tuned. GREAT IDEA!

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Ok. Build 28 coming in a few minutes.

Turns out automating traversing the menu structure in a VB6 application is extremely difficult and not possible to get all the info I need from that.

Also, turns out that all main menu items are already in the Find Feature (F1).

However, as you noted, many form-specific popup menu items are not there.

I have added the one in question here and about 10 more that make sense to add. Many, however, simply make no sense to add to this list for various reasons. But this and about 10 others do benefit from it. 

For example, typing in 'location' or 'counties', etc. will find this feature you were looking for. In addition, it notes that this is in a popup menu; tipping you off on where to find it on that form.

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Build 28 also has the if End Date < Start Date, on end date change, then set Start Date to End Date; and as before, vice versa for Start Date.

Do let me know whenever you encounter any other items that should be included in the Find Any Feature window.

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